关于使sin(x)为超越数的规整x取值及典型值判定的技术咨询
Hey there! First off, no worries about being new here—we’ve all been there, and your question is a really interesting deep dive into transcendental number theory, so great job framing it.
Let’s break this down step by step, starting with the specific examples you asked about:
First, is sin(1 radian) really transcendental?
Absolutely, and we can prove it using the Lindemann-Weierstrass Theorem—a foundational result in transcendental number theory. This theorem states that if α is a non-zero algebraic number, then e^α is transcendental.
Here’s how it applies to sin(1):
Using Euler’s formula, we know sin(x) = (e^(ix) - e^(-ix))/(2i). Suppose for contradiction that sin(1) were algebraic. Then rearranging the formula gives us a quadratic equation in e^i:(e^i)^2 - 2i sin(1) e^i - 1 = 0
This would mean e^i is a root of a polynomial with algebraic coefficients, making e^i algebraic—but 1 is a non-zero algebraic number, so i (algebraic) times 1 is still algebraic, and Lindemann-Weierstrass tells us e^i must be transcendental. Contradiction! So sin(1) has to be transcendental. That’s why Wolfram Alpha can state it confidently.
"Nice" values of x where sin(x) is confirmed to be transcendental
Based on the same theorem and related results, we can confirm transcendence for several categories of "nice" x:
- Non-zero rational numbers in radians: If
q ∈ ℚandq ≠ 0, thensin(q)is transcendental. The proof is identical to the sin(1) case:iqis a non-zero algebraic number, soe^(iq)is transcendental, and assumingsin(q)is algebraic leads to a contradiction. - Algebraic irrational numbers in radians: For example,
x = √2,x = Φ = (1+√5)/2(the golden ratio), orx = √3. Since these are algebraic numbers (non-zero),ixis also algebraic, soe^(ix)is transcendental. Using the same Euler formula trick as before, we can showsin(x)can’t be algebraic—so it’s transcendental.
Values where we suspect sin(x) is transcendental, but don’t have a formal proof
There are plenty of "nice" x where we strongly believe sin(x) is transcendental, but haven’t been able to prove it yet (these rely on unproven but widely accepted conjectures like Schanuel’s Conjecture):
- Transcendental numbers in radians: This includes
x = e,x = ln(2),x = 1/π. Schanuel’s Conjecture would imply that these sines are transcendental, but no strict proof exists today. - Irrational numbers in degrees (that don’t reduce to a rational multiple of π radians): For example,
x = πdegrees (which converts toπ²/180radians) orx = √2degrees (√2 π/180radians). Since these x values are transcendental (they involve π multiplied by an algebraic number), we can’t apply Lindemann-Weierstrass directly, but Schanuel’s Conjecture suggests their sines are transcendental.
Quick recap of your initial intuition
Your gut feeling was mostly right:
sin(q)(q non-zero rational, radians) is always transcendental.- For
xthat’s irrational in radians and not of the formqπ(q rational), ifxis algebraic, we can provesin(x)is transcendental. Ifxis transcendental, we suspect it’s transcendental but can’t confirm yet.
备注:内容来源于stack exchange,提问作者Gabriel Brown

