逻辑损失梯度永不为零是否无法取得最小值?逻辑回归场景求证
Great question—let’s unpack this clearly for your specific logistic regression setup.
1. First: Can the gradient ever be exactly zero?
Your intuition about individual terms in the gradient being non-zero is correct: for any single sample where $x^{(n)} \neq 0$ (which is almost always the case, since zero-vector samples carry no predictive information), the term $\frac{- y{(n)}x{(n)} }{1 + e{y{(n)}w^{\top} x^{(n)}}}$ will never be zero. The denominator $1 + e{y{(n)}w^\top x^{(n)}}$ is always greater than 1, and the numerator $-y{(n)}x{(n)}$ is non-zero.
But here’s the key: the gradient is the average of all these individual terms. Multiple non-zero terms can cancel each other out to produce a zero average. Let’s take a simple concrete example:
- Suppose we have two samples: $x^{(1)} = [1], y^{(1)} = +1$; $x^{(2)} = [1], y^{(2)} = -1$.
- The gradient becomes:
$$
\nabla_w J_{train}(w) = \frac{1}{2} \left( \frac{-11}{1 + e^{w1}} + \frac{-(-1)1}{1 + e^{-w1}} \right)
$$ - Simplify the second term: $\frac{1}{1 + e^{-w}} = \frac{e^w}{1 + e^w}$. Adding the two terms together:
$$
\frac{1}{2} \left( \frac{-1}{1+e^w} + \frac{ew}{1+ew} \right) = \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{e^w - 1}{1 + e^w}
$$ - When $w=0$, this equals $\frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{1-1}{1+1} = 0$. So the gradient is exactly zero here!
At this $w=0$, the loss function reaches its minimum value: $J_{train}(0) = \frac{1}{2}(\log(1+e^0) + \log(1+e^0)) = \log(2)$. If you try $w \to +\infty$ or $w \to -\infty$, the loss will blow up to infinity, confirming this is indeed the minimum.
2. When does the gradient never reach zero?
This happens when your training data is linearly separable. Let’s say there exists some $w^$ such that for all samples, $y{(n)}(w)^\top x^{(n)} > 0$. If you scale $w^$ by a positive constant $t$ (so $w = t w^$), then $y{(n)}w\top x^{(n)} = t \cdot y{(n)}(w*)^\top x^{(n)}$, which grows to $+\infty$ as $t \to +\infty$.
In this scenario:
- Each term in the gradient becomes $\frac{-y{(n)}x{(n)}}{1 + e^{t \cdot C_n}}$, where $C_n = y{(n)}(w*)^\top x^{(n)} > 0$. As $t \to +\infty$, $e^{t C_n} \to +\infty$, so each term approaches 0.
- The gradient approaches zero, but never actually hits it (since $e^{t C_n}$ is always finite for finite $t$).
- The loss function approaches 0 (since $\log(1 + e^{-\infty}) = 0$), but never actually reaches 0—because you can’t have an infinitely large $w$.
In this case, the loss function has an infimum (greatest lower bound) of 0, but no actual minimum value. Gradient descent will keep updating $w$ to make it larger and larger, getting closer and closer to zero loss but never reaching it.
3. Key Takeaways
- Linear inseparable data: There exists a finite $w$ where the gradient is exactly zero, and this $w$ achieves the minimum loss.
- Linear separable data: The gradient never reaches zero (only approaches it as $w$ grows infinitely), and the loss function has no minimum—only an infimum that we can approximate arbitrarily closely with iterative methods like gradient descent.
内容的提问来源于stack exchange,提问作者Charlie Parker

